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38 statements · 2022–2022
Cosmos exchange listings will come as one slew
Updates From the Lab 1/5/22 W/Akash (Osmosis)
“I think it’s just going to be like one slew of listings that are going to happen. I am seeing quite a bit of interest from a lot of exchanges on supporting Cosmos assets.” — Greg Osuri, 01:18:03
Context: Asked about a rumored Binance listing of AKT; he blames the technical difficulty of Cosmos integrations (no ERC-20 pair, which he “despises”) and cites Coinbase’s Rosetta work. Caption reads “sleuth” for “slew.”
Decentralization is community participation and continuity of operations
Splitting ATOMs: How decentralized is Cosmos? ⚛️ (Cryptocito)
“Decentralization is just not about coin distribution, but it’s also community participation… more often than not we just look at technology and number of nodes… and ultimately it comes down to continuity of operations.” — Greg Osuri, 00:41:22
Context: Extending Zaki’s answer on why decentralization matters, after the Secret Network/Enigma example of a community reviving a chain shut down by regulators.
Shared state doesn't scale; sovereign state is the end state
Splitting ATOMs: How decentralized is Cosmos? ⚛️ (Cryptocito)
“Most of the conversations I’ve been having with people is about sovereignty and scalability, and I think the general conclusion is: shared state doesn’t scale, sovereign state is the end state.” — Greg Osuri, 00:03:33
Context: Greg reporting from ETHDenver 2022; frames app-chain sovereignty as the winning architecture (“ETH is positioning for Cosmos”).
Talent is migrating from web2 to web3
Akash Weekly: Introducing new VP of Engineering, Chanda Dharap (Akash Network)
“Having someone like Chanda work at Akash is an obvious signal that the talent is migrating from web 2 to web 3… if you even open TechCrunch there’s nothing else going on in web two… that’s all web 2 is, it’s ads and SaaS… anybody that cares about the open web will obviously jump at web 3.” — Greg Osuri, 00:38:43
Context: Answering how outsiders view crypto; he adds at [00:39:26] that “Facebook gave us the 2016 election” as an example of web2’s structural outcomes that web3 attempts to fix.
Hype projects will die this cycle; builders will thrive
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 15th (Akash Network)
“A lot of the projects that purely build on hype will die during this bear cycle… products that can deliver value but also show incredible metrics when it comes to retention and adoption will survive the bear market and thrive when the bull market comes… builders will get more attention than the shillers.” — Greg Osuri, 00:27:46
Context: Explaining why Overclock is hyper-focused on web2-style retention/adoption metrics (“no real products yet until this phase” in web3).
Preparing for a two-to-three-year bear market
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 15th (Akash Network)
“How we’re funded the development and how we’re gonna sail through the next, you know, next two to three years of a potential bear market.” — Greg Osuri, 00:04:14
Context: Framing the episode’s agenda in June 2022; matched later by his runway claim: “conservatively about two years and optimistically about three years of financing” at [00:25:40].
SEC enforcement will hit DeFi, not Akash
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 15th (Akash Network)
“It’s very, very unlikely that we’ll have some enforcement action, considering how conservative we are… DeFi protocols are definitely promising high returns to US investors… we’re going to probably see a lot of SEC enforcement in that purview.” — Greg Osuri, 00:42:33
Context: AMA answer on regulatory preparation; positions Akash as a cloud computing business with on-chain transparent market pricing, not an interest-bearing DeFi asset.
Bear markets make cost matter — the unused-compute model is working
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 22nd (Akash Network)
“People don’t really care about cost of compute, but when times are difficult, in a bear market, Akash is getting quite a lot of attention… a plot, when Chia was in a bull market, was selling for $2 — now [10 cents]… the source of compute is coming from unused compute, right? So the model is really working here.” — Greg Osuri, 00:10:35
Context: Reacting to Evergreen building a fiat-payment business (ACH/debit) fulfilled by Akash deployments — users buy plots, not AKT.
Flux exposed environment variables publicly — a "massive security hole"
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 22nd (Akash Network)
“I was using the product to discover some of the security holes that they had — massive security holes. One big hole was they were exposing environment variables to the public. Akash, we don’t do that — environment variables in Akash are private between the tenant and the provider.” — Greg Osuri, 00:26:22
Context: His public dispute with Flux after a Messari report on Akash; he says Flux’s founder proposed then backed out of a live debate, and cites Presearch leaving Flux for Akash over dropped connections.
Web3 goes mainstream in about two years
I Moderated A Panel at DCENTRAL Austin 2022 on Decentralized Cloud! (MineYour.₿iz Classic)
“It’s not like compromises, but just clever design that evolves over time, and I think very, very soon we’re going to have these systems come into play and people will figure this out, and these patterns will become the global web3 onboarding patterns — and I would give it another two years by the time web three goes mainstream.” — Greg Osuri, 00:18:33
Context: On “web 2.5” onboarding: Akash’s AuthZ feature decouples payer from user so a custodied, credit-card-funded wallet can legally delegate compute spend — his example of bridging legacy infrastructure (email, credit cards) rather than ignoring it.
Web3 goes mainstream in about two years
Decentralized Cloud - DCENTRAL Austin 2022 (Dcentral Con)
“It’s not like compromises, but just clever design that evolves over time, and I think very, very soon we’re going to have these systems come into play and people will figure this out, and these patterns will become the global web3 onboarding patterns — and I would give it another two years by the time web three goes mainstream.” — Greg Osuri, 00:18:34
Context: On bridging legacy infrastructure: Akash’s AuthZ decouples payer from user so a custodied credit-card-funded wallet can legally delegate compute spend; quote begins in the [00:17:53] block.
2022-23 downturn will end in a recovery rooted in real growth, centered on Cosmos
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 29th (Akash Network)
“I think we’re going to see a similar pattern in 2022 and 2023: I think we’re going to see a year-long crisis and then it’s going to be an upturn, and I think that will be rooted in real growth… last time it was about product-market fit, this time it’s going to be about growth and people using real products.” — Greg Osuri, 00:15:04
Context: Comparing to the 2018 peak-to-trough and 2019 DeFi-led recovery; he adds “Ethereum and none of the actual shared-state chains can deliver that level of user experience — that’s why I’m extremely bullish on the Cosmos model, the sovereign model” [00:15:47].
Cost is a hook, not a keeper — UX decides whether decentralization wins
WCEF 2022: Infrastructure for the New Internet - Web3 (World Crypto Economic Forum (WCEF))
“In all honesty, cost is not a keeper. Cost is a hook, but it doesn’t retain, because cost is generally a function of demand-supply: once the demand increases, supply reduces, the price goes up, so people start jumping ship… like Airbnb — initially cost was a hook, $20 rooms, but then you eventually got into a mode where you have diversity and variety available to you.” — Greg Osuri, 00:14:18
Context: Explaining disappointing decentralized-storage uptake; he candidly admits Akash retention lags web2 because token onboarding and non-custodial UX repel mainstream users.
Privacy applications will take center stage
Akash Weekly - July 20th (Akash Network)
“You could launch an Altered node on Akash yourself and have the guarantees that this node is going to be completely private, owned and controlled by you. This is going to be a game changer for DAOs… I think the future, at least for the next few months to years, of privacy applications are going to take the center stage.” — Greg Osuri, 00:05:50
Context: Announcing the Altered privacy-messaging app deploying on Akash; framed as sovereignty plus privacy for DAOs and private groups.
Wanting the bear market to last as long as possible
Akash Weekly - July 20th (Akash Network)
“In a way I want this bear market to last a little longer, as long as possible, because that gives us opportunity to really shine, and that’ll filter out a lot of the junk that the bull market got. Once the bull market comes, the chains that performed well in the bear market are going to get the best shine.” — Greg Osuri, 00:42:04
Context: AMA answer deflecting a token-price joke; he says the real goal is AKT demand for utilization, not price.
Overclock Labs has ~4 years of runway
What is Overclock Labs vs Akash Network (Akash Network)
“Overclock Labs is independently funded, it’s privately funded… we have enough capital to answer your question — I mean we have enough capital to last this next four to four years or so.” — Greg Osuri, 00:01:25
Context: Reassurance during the 2022 bear market about company sustainability.
Open, community-curated on-chain ban lists
Akash Weekly - August 10th 2022 (Akash Network)
“They are on chain and highly visible, and identifiable to a certain degree. So I think these open systems’ ban lists are going to be very interesting, because they’re going to be curated — especially if they’re curated by a community.” — Greg Osuri, 00:51:46
Context: Arguing compliance (SARs) is easier in open systems — “internet sleuths” researched Treasury’s 85 sanctioned addresses; sentence begins “on-chain highly visible ban lists are okay as long as…” in the prior caption block.
Sanctioning Tornado Cash is like banning electricity because North Koreans use it
Akash Weekly - August 10th 2022 (Akash Network)
“The fact that a tool was blocked because of illicit usage is very surprising, and this is very analogous to, like, I don’t know, you know, if North Koreans use electricity — banning electricity. So it’s very similar to banning a tool because it was used by bad people.” — Greg Osuri, 00:05:01
Context: First-ever OFAC sanction of open-source software; he still estimates “eighty to ninety percent of the activity on Tornado Cash is illicit” and notes banning it did make transactions more traceable.
Edison analogy on developer arrest
Akash Weekly - August 17th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Arresting a developer because his code was used for money laundering — his arrest is like arresting Edison because his bulb was used by the Nazis. It’s the same analogy, and that’s not okay.” — Greg Osuri, 00:17:09
Context: On the Dutch arrest of Tornado Cash developer Alexey Pertsev; Greg’s tweet on this was quoted in several podcasts, and he calls it a fight all software developers must take seriously.
GitHub is dead for web3; decentralized code hosting is the future
Akash Weekly - August 17th 2022 (Akash Network)
“GitHub is no longer a service discovery tool for web3 and we need to do better… moving away from GitHub to a more decentralized system like a Radicle or a Gitopia… I think is the future.” — Greg Osuri, 00:12:50
Context: After GitHub banned Tornado Cash developers’ accounts; he predicts Gitopia-style CI/CD runners on Akash replacing GitHub Actions. (Quote spans into the [00:13:34] block.)
Web3's edge: open source software that ships with its own network
Akash Weekly - September 14th 2022 (Akash Network)
“The big difference between the open systems that are prominent so far versus web3 is that web3 comes with functionality, whereas open systems don’t come with functionality… with something like web3, you use an open source software, it comes [with] the network capability where you can fully realize the power of the software.” — Greg Osuri, 00:37:59
Context: Contrasting Docker (needs a cloud to be useful) with web3 protocols; part of his answer on how developer experience drives web3 adoption.
Web3 will go places web2 can't even come close to
Akash Weekly - September 14th 2022 (Akash Network)
“If we can improve the developer experience, especially around interoperability, I think this is going to go places where web 2… can’t even come close. So I’m very, very confident on where we’re going.” — Greg Osuri, 00:40:08
Context: After recounting Twitter revoking his API access and killing “hundreds of hours” of work — web3’s permissionless, guaranteed APIs (e.g., Cloudmos building on Akash without permission) as the reason web3 wins.
US military as preferred first government user of Akash
Akash Analysis - Why decentralization is important (Akash Network)
“US DoD is, I think, the purest form of government… they don’t care about anything else except protection, and them really looking at a technology and putting a stamp is such an amazing feature. If any branch of government would use [it], I would prefer the US military as a first user of Akash.” — Unknown, 00:02:11
Context: Argues government proof points counterbalance anti-crypto policy narratives. Speaker: uncredited clip; likely Greg.
GPU support targeted for end of 2022
Akash Weekly - September 21st 2022 (Akash Network)
“That’s coming out in a few weeks… this should be the last big update before the GPU, so we’re going to be actively working on GPUs after the IP leases release. It’s really exciting — talk on GPU is heating up.” — Greg Osuri, 00:02:56
Context: Mainnet 4 / IP-leases roadmap; he adds the team is “working hard to getting you hopefully the end of the year” (00:03:39–00:04:22). GPU mainnet ultimately shipped in September 2023 — a dated roadmap forecast.
Bear market will get worse and be prolonged
Akash Weekly - September 28th 2022 (Akash Network)
“It’s very obvious now, bear market, but I think it’s going to be a lot worse — I mean that’s the general consensus — and it’s a prolonged market… with the console I think we can hunker down and hyper focus on users and nothing else, and when the light finally comes you’re going to see a lot of these efforts come to fruition.” — Greg Osuri, 00:31:28
Context: September 2022 macro call framing the next two years as heads-down product/user focus for Akash.
Enterprise adoption only works bottom-up, through internal champions
It Just Works: Letting Mainstream Firms Plug Into Crypto - Messari Mainnet 2022 (Messari)
“You can’t have a top-down approach… it really has to be a bottoms-up. It’s not a company, it’s an ecosystem… Every enterprise we are in right now happened because there was a developer, a hacker, or somebody curious… used the Akash network, participated in one of our hackathons, and took that back to the enterprise and gathered support… If you go top-down and be like ‘hey, we’re 95% cheaper than Amazon,’ people throw you out, because it’s unbelievable.” — Greg Osuri, 00:13:31
Context: His “biggest lesson learned” answer; he stresses grassroots community building and consistent communications as the only scalable enterprise channel, and admits Akash can’t match all of Amazon’s capabilities.
Crypto's real gift is planetary-scale coordination, not finance
Akash Weekly - October 5th 2022 (Akash Network)
“What crypto allows us to do is coordination — permissionless coordination at planetary scale… I think it’s very, very important for us to shift our focus away from finance and think about what we can do beyond finance.” — Greg Osuri, 00:51:29
Context: Closing AMA exchange agreeing DeFi has become boring; he floats life extension as the kind of problem planetary coordination plus decentralized infrastructure could tackle. (Quote begins at the end of the [00:50:40] block.)
NFTs — digitized ownership — will be bigger than DeFi
Akash Weekly - October 5th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Digitalization of ownership, I think, is going to be a lot bigger than DeFi. I think NFTs are going to be a lot bigger than DeFi… DeFi is essentially taking the old, oligopolized model of how to deal with finance and modernizing that, but NFTs unlock whole new levels of engagement with what has been traditionally very hidden and very inaccessible.” — Greg Osuri, 00:44:14
Context: Prompted by Starbucks’ NFT rewards program; he frames NFTs as composable, portable, easily custodied digital rights.
Web3 goes mainstream by 2027
Akash Weekly - October 5th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Mainstream definition means 50% of 14,000 companies all have [a] web3 strategy — I would consider that mainstream. I think we’re going to see that in five years. I mean, by 2027 at least… Ernst & Young… they think it’s 2030, just by following the trajectory of cloud… but I believe as we evolve in tech stacks they tend to get faster in terms of adoption, and I believe 2027 will be the date.” — Greg Osuri, 00:40:30
Context: AMA question on mainstream web3 adoption; he adds that regulation arriving (however harsh) gives large companies the clarity they need, and notes DoD experimentation with Akash and Secret for sovereign internal systems.
A few key apps, not thousands, will drive adoption (Netflix/AWS analogy)
Akash Weekly - October 12th 2022 (Akash Network)
“It’s not about having hundreds and thousands of applications on day one… it’s quite the opposite: it’s one, two, three key applications that will bring hundreds of millions of users… it was Netflix that changed the face of Amazon.” — Greg Osuri, 01:01:40
Context: Declining to give a 3-year revenue forecast (“it could be twice or thrice or it could be 100 times, I just don’t know”); adoption thesis modeled on AWS’s early history.
Crypto is easier to police than opaque legacy systems
Akash Weekly - October 12th 2022 (Akash Network)
“I think crypto makes it a lot simpler to track… crypto actually makes it easier to track crime and shut down than an opaque system that we had before.” — Greg Osuri, 00:55:10
Context: Contrarian claim during the compliance panel, arguing on/off-ramps plus hosting providers cover ~99% of enforcement cases on permissionless systems.
Bullish on Urbit and owning your own data
Akash Weekly - October 28th 2022 (Akash Network)
“I always like the idea of owning my own data. Urbit is sort of delivering that, and Akash will be the first decentralized cloud to be able to run Urbit.” — Greg Osuri, 00:02:57
Context: Listing Mainnet 4 use cases; data-sovereignty framing consistent with his later local-AI privacy arguments. (Caption garbles Urbit as “orbit”/”urban”; he warns it has no token and to avoid fakes.)
Candid admission: flat metrics come from churn — users simply run out of escrow
Akash Weekly - October 28th 2022 (Akash Network)
“The biggest reason why people leave Akash is they run out of money — like, it’s really that dumb… it’s like [a] parking meter, you forget to put more money in… the deployment goes away and I have no idea why my deployment went away… churn has been a larger contributing factor for a flat adoption curve.” — Greg Osuri, 00:36:50
Context: Community member asks why network analytics are flat over the past year; Greg lists fixes: Cloudmos alerts, USDC stable payments, credit-card custodial deploys via the upcoming Overclock Console, and multi-region fault-tolerance UX.
Feature-length AI-generated films are coming very soon
Akash Weekly - November 2nd 2022 (Akash Network)
“Using AI, folks right now are creating not only drawings but animations. Very soon you’ll be able to see a full feature-length film made with AI — and a lot of this means so much compute power.” — Greg Osuri, 00:08:41
Context: November 2022 (weeks before ChatGPT’s release); Greg describes reviving his own cartooning with image generators as evidence generative AI found product-market fit.
Crypto VC investment will dry up around September 2023
Akash Weekly - November 16th 2022 (Akash Network)
“I think the investments are going to dry up maybe in September of next year, because that’s when all of funds will go dry… so there is investments for really good projects, but the likeliness of you raising money pre-product-market fit is very very low.” — Greg Osuri, 00:31:49
Context: Advice to new founders in the bear market: reach product-market fit without a token; dated funding-cycle forecast.
The bear market will get worse and be prolonged
Founders Reflect on Why Akash was Created (Akash Network)
“It’s very obvious bear market, but I think it’s going to be a lot worse — I mean that’s the general consensus — and it’s a prolonged market. So with the Console I think we can be hunkered down and hyper-focus on users and nothing else, and when the light finally comes you’re going to see a lot of these efforts come to fruition.” — Greg Osuri, 00:04:24
Context: November 2022 (post-FTX era); his strategy of building through the downturn.
US Department of Defense used Akash; regulators will come around
Dcentral 2022 - DeCloud - Decentralized Cloud & Storage (Akash Network)
“One of the recent use cases for Akash was with the U.S. Department of Defense, using Akash Network to secure inter-group communications. So when people start seeing some of these advanced use cases used by the government, I think the government and regulators will have a different opinion on how Akash is used and how web3 is considered.” — Greg Osuri, 00:05:04
Context: Regulation discussion; he follows with the claim that Akash will “make America more competitive when it comes to machine learning by enabling and unlocking these inherently unused resources.”
November 2022 was the bottom; Fed pivots and recovery by mid-2023
Akash Weekly - November 30th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Overall I think November — we hit the bottom. We’re starting to see some recovery… there’s indication inflation actually reducing, so that could actually influence the Fed to pivot — a pivot means that they would start reducing interest rates sometime next year. So this is the worst part of the bear market, I think.” — Greg Osuri, 01:11:57
Context: Closing thoughts for the year; he adds at [01:14:52] “mid next year we’re going to start seeing a pivot and this will be history,” urging builders with conviction to stay and “tourists” to leave quietly.