Local Compute
19 statements · 2022–2022
Any home computer with a powerful GPU can become a provider
Updates From the Lab 1/5/22 W/Akash (Osmosis)
“We see that changing quite a bit with GPUs, because GPUs now don’t necessarily mandate cloud-grade compute — pretty much any home computer with a powerful GPU can offer compute… gaming computers or mining computers that have a lot of GPUs will soon enough [be] offering [on] Akash.” — Greg Osuri, 00:54:40
Context: Early (pre-GPU-market) statement of the home-compute thesis; he caveats that home machines suit batch rather than latency-sensitive serving. Second sentence at 00:55:22. Sunny separately predicts post-Merge idle Ethereum GPUs as supply (00:51:48).
Akash on phones: ARM build "this quarter," Android first
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“We are coming up with an ARM-first build very, very soon. It’s on the roadmap… I think like this quarter and next we’ll have an ARM and GPU build coming out, so you can put that on your phones. Akash, like, one-click install on your phones. I think Androids will come first.” — Greg Osuri, 00:47:49
Context: Asked whether phones could be plugged into Akash like Teslas; he adds “GPUs are going to redefine Akash” because GPUs make consumer devices attractive to supply ([00:48:33]).
Akash wins because it's device-first where cloud skipped the device
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“Akash is device-first… being decentralized, being optimized [to] run anywhere, we are very well positioned to be device-first, where the cloud completely skipped the device in the world. So another reason why we’re gonna win is because of that — a device-first approach, because there’s a whole new generation of machines that haven’t touched the cloud.” — Greg Osuri, 00:49:58
Context: Summing up the device thesis after discussing cars, phones, and consoles as future Akash providers.
Big data centers bootstrap supply until fridges, phones, and cars take over
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“Our reliance on data centers does not compromise [decentralization], but it bootstraps supply so that we can actually go build meaningful networks — a meaningful network that’ll eventually reduce the reliance on a big data center to a point it can be a Super Mini, or it can be a phone, or it can be a fridge, or it can be a car… the vision is always way more decentralized than big data centers.” — Greg Osuri, 01:30:41
Context: Community question on whether relying on centralized data centers betrays the vision; he also clarifies the Super Mini wasn’t cancelled but deferred until GPU support lands.
Cars are computers; predicted container-based car OS in 2015
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“Red Hat is doing amazing work in developing something called Car OS, and I predicted this like in 2015. I was talking to somebody [at] Daimler in Germany… that hey, cars should just start using containers and Kubernetes to manage the internal workloads, and cars are about 200 computers these days.” — Greg Osuri, 00:49:17
Context: Positioning Akash as container-native for the mobility/automotive space; cites conversations with GM and Honda contacts looking seriously at containers.
End state: redefining cloud from every underutilized device
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“End state for Akash is not just taking over cloud, but I think redefining what cloud is — looking at every possible underutilized resource and enabling utility on top of that… the next step will be like when Tesla has Akash installed in it. That would be my end state.” — Greg Osuri, 00:45:42
Context: He elaborates: “when your Tesla is charging in the night it’s useless — it should offer those GPUs to a machine learning researcher [in] the other part of the world that can run [a] few models in the night, and your Tesla making money on it” ([00:47:06]).
Everyone will use Akash without knowing it; your Tesla should pay for itself
Akash (40%+ staking APY) is taking over the $Bn Cloud Computing Market by AWS? Greg Osuri EXCLUSIVE (Digital Asset Yield Summit)
“When Akash is at like a full success state, everybody in the world will use Akash and not know that you’re using Akash… someone can make up to eight hundred dollars mining crypto on Tesla. So why isn’t your Tesla paying for itself? Why isn’t your refrigerator paying for itself? Why isn’t your gaming console…?” — Greg Osuri, 00:45:00
Context: His personal “moon scenario” for Akash — household and vehicle compute becoming income-earning supply; he notes gaming consoles will matter more with the metaverse.
Home computers will earn income once ML workloads arrive
"Akashonomics: AKT Release Schedule" (Akash Network)
“A home computer that’s powerful enough can earn income on Akash when we have applications that would leverage such a computer. So machine learning would be the type of application… so we kind of postponed the Supermini to a few years down the line.” — Greg Osuri, 00:28:33
Context: Answering why the Supermini home supercomputer was shelved: no GPU support yet and demand skewed to data-center compute; an early (2022) version of the home-GPU-income thesis he later ships as Akash Home Node.
Own your own compute; offload excess to a peer-to-peer network
Akash Weekly: Chia (Akash Network)
“That is the original vision of Akash… it’s about sovereignty. We want people to own their own compute, because that’s the best possible deal you can get compared to running it on the cloud. But when you have to scale up… you should be able to connect to the network, or when you do not have demand on your own cluster, you should be able to offload that supply to the network. So the real vision is to create a truly peer-to-peer compute network… truly hyper-efficient usage of resources — I think that’s the best model.” — Greg Osuri, 00:50:42
Context: Answering a home-lab provider (Digital Spaceport, running a Proxmox cluster) asking whether providers can run their own workloads — one of Greg’s clearest early statements of the owned/local compute + network-overflow thesis.
Shrink an Akash provider until it runs on an IoT device
Akash Weekly: Introducing new VP of Engineering, Chanda Dharap (Akash Network)
“We wanted to put gas on GPUs, and that leads into minimizing the resource requirements to run an Akash provider to a point it can be run in an IoT device. That’s another area I want to start putting gas on, R&D into.” — Greg Osuri, 00:17:13
Context: Advanced-research ambitions; early (April 2022) statement of the vision that tiny edge/home devices could sell compute on Akash.
Supermini is not dead
"Akashonomics: AKT Release Schedule" (Akash Network)
“Supermini is not dead. It’s just living and waiting for its day to come back.” — Greg Osuri, 00:37:01
Context: After riffing on interim uses for a home device — remote signer/”entropy source” for validators, sovereign key custody for cloud data — he keeps the home-compute vision alive pending GPU support and favorable economics.
Phones do light compute, decentralized cloud does the heavy lifting
Akash Weekly Spaces - June 29th (Akash Network)
“Mobile phones… are lightweight devices… a use case for Akash there would be lightweight processing on the mobile phone and heavyweight processing on Akash, on a decentralized cloud. So you can see how the mobile operating system can work in tandem with the cloud operating system… in a highly composable way, without the user even knowing about it.” — Greg Osuri, 00:12:13
Context: Reacting to the Solana phone announcement; his example is games with high-end graphics rendered on Akash and streamed to the device. He extends it: “you can see a future where Akash, Helium and Solana working in tandem… deliver the user experience on a mobile device that has never been done before” [00:12:56], possible “in a year’s time” once IBC connects them [00:13:38].
Idle compute becoming passive income for community providers
Akash Weekly - July 6th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Somebody, a community member, became a provider on Akash Network using Praetor, and now he’s writing a guide on how others with, like, compute lying around can… start earning passive income. We’re starting to see community take hold of provider engagement.” — Greg Osuri, 00:16:16
Context: Celebrating Praetor’s simplified provider onboarding; the recurring theme of ordinary people monetizing spare hardware on Akash.
Servers must move to where the user is
Akash Weekly - July 6th 2022 (Akash Network)
“How do you serve that data in a high-performance way, in a low-latency way? You do that by reducing the network latency between the end user and the server, and that means you need to go where the user is — that means the servers need to be in the same location of the user.” — Greg Osuri, 00:32:52
Context: Phase three of the adoption plan — after cost, solve performance via Akash’s geographically distributed provider model (edge compute thesis).
Phones do light compute; Akash does the heavy lifting
The Composability Potential of IBC Enabled Blockchains (Akash Network)
“Mobile phones are lightweight devices — they can [not] do the computations, right? So a use case for Akash there would be lightweight processing on the mobile phone and heavyweight processing on Akash, on a decentralized cloud. So you can see how the mobile operating system can work in tandem with the cloud operating system in a highly composable way, without the user even knowing about it. Such use cases could be like games… you can have the high-end graphic processing done on the cloud on Akash and deliver that directly to the mobile phone.” — Greg Osuri, 00:00:42
Context: Early articulation of his edge-device-plus-decentralized-cloud split, prompted by Solana Mobile (Saga) plans.
Buy a GPU, host it at home, lease it out when idle
Akash Weekly - October 5th 2022 (Akash Network)
“People are realizing it’s actually way cheaper to buy a GPU and host it at home, but then you’re not using those GPUs most of the time, so it’s even better when you can actually lease them out to recover some of your investments. So Akash GPU [is something] I’m extremely bullish on… as we get closer to releasing GPUs… we’re realizing the GPU market is much bigger than what we realized.” — Greg Osuri, 00:12:25
Context: GPU support named the next big feature after IP leases; he cites unnamed large companies eager to use it for machine learning and Stanford research on using distributed GPU clusters. An early statement of the home-GPUs-earning-income thesis.
Tapping idle GPUs from home gaming machines to mining data centers
Akash Weekly - October 12th 2022 (Akash Network)
“GPUs allow us to tap into this massive deployed capital and resources, like gaming machines to powerful workstations… to data center compute that has enormous amounts of GPUs. With Ethereum mining… there was enormous infrastructure that was built for this mining use case that’s all underutilized right now, so the GPU market will allow us to untap this.” — Greg Osuri, 00:07:15
Context: Weeks after Ethereum’s Merge stranded proof-of-work GPU capacity; the recurring thesis that consumer and idle hardware becomes monetizable supply on Akash.
Evergreen: a home miner that runs Akash when you're not using it
Akash Weekly - October 28th 2022 (Akash Network)
“Check out Evergreen miner… Evergreen is a miner that runs Akash, that you can actually purchase and plug in in your home. So when you’re not using the miner, it essentially runs Akash software and it mines for you… another example as to why grassroots permissionless innovation really takes off.” — Greg Osuri, 00:12:59
Context: Chia segment — home hardware earning by joining the network; he also claims Akash is “the most cost-optimized platform” for Chia plotting (10 cents vs ~40 cents on traditional cloud).
Akash is a market — including someone's home server
Akash Analysis Should Web2 projects consider running on decentralized infrastructure (Akash Network)
“Akash is not really a cloud, it’s a market, right? If you’re using Akash you’re actually deploying on an Equinix or an OVH or, you know, someone’s home server if you choose to. The point is it’s not really a single provider but rather you’re going to a bunch of bare metal providers.” — Greg Osuri, 00:01:24
Context: Recurring framing of Akash as a marketplace spanning tier-1 data centers down to home hardware.