Crypto & DePIN
11 statements · 2020–2020
Bootstrap the marketplace by "borrowing from the future"
"Hashing It Out #70 - Akash Network - Greg Osuri" (Hashing It Out (The Bitcoin Podcast Network))
“My thesis was, in a two-sided marketplace, the first challenge the market has to solve is the demand supply paradox. What comes first?… when you bootstrap supply to a point that it’s extremely attractive to the demand — let’s say cost, for example — the demand side will catch up… really, you’re borrowing from the future to bootstrap the present.” — Greg Osuri, 00:30:22
Context: Summarizing his paper “Bootstrapping a free market by borrowing from the future” (quote spans the 00:31:06 and 00:31:48 blocks): inflation-funded supply subsidies de-risk providers until network effects arrive — the template later used for Akash’s provider incentives.
Tokenized open source software is the third open-source business model
"Hashing It Out #70 - Akash Network - Greg Osuri" (Hashing It Out (The Bitcoin Podcast Network))
“So far, the business models for open source software have been primarily subscription driven and open core driven. But now we’re experiencing the third business model, which is tokenized open source software, we call it, where it has this incredible incentive layer, the token layer on top of the open source platform… So how do you monetize? A lot of us are still trying to figure that out, to be honest with you. And our solution is [selling] hardware.” — Greg Osuri, 00:28:47
Context: From the recovered span (quote spans into the 00:29:29 block), answering “how do you make money?”: Overclock profits only if the network succeeds — via Supermini hardware sales and managed services (“setting hardware” is Whisper for “selling hardware”). An early articulation of the tokenized-OSS sustainability thesis he later repeats.
Decentralized apps that feel centralized
Greg Osuri - Founder of Akash Network / Solana Testimonial (Solana)
“The thing that excites me most about Solana is the throughput that allows developers to build applications that feel like a centralized application but actually it’s decentralized on the core — and it’s a very attractive property that allows real distributed systems engineers to actually consider building on a blockchain.” — Greg Osuri, 00:01:30
Context: His bar for blockchain viability: centralized-grade UX/performance with decentralized foundations.
IBC will enable stablecoin payments for compute
The Akashian Challenge Phase 2 Livestream (Akash Network)
“In our roadmap we’re talking about supporting stablecoin payments for compute on the Akash network, and by far the easiest way for us to accomplish that is going to be to enable IBC in Akash.” — Jack Zampolin, 00:24:20
Context: Speaker: Jack Zampolin, not Greg — explaining his move from Cosmos to Akash and the in-progress IBC migration PR. Stablecoin payment support did later ship on Akash.
Solana smart contracts running on Akash, paying in AKT
The Akashian Challenge Phase 2 Livestream (Akash Network)
“We believe Solana has incredible… high-performance smart contracts capability, because [their] throughput numbers are astronomical. So you should be, hopefully soon, run Solana smart contracts using Akash, pay using Akash tokens… it’s like using Solana’s software on Akash, which is hardware, paying to Solana using Akash tokens… a beautiful improbable love story there.” — Greg Osuri, 00:36:13
Context: Greg, following Jack’s note that Solana was discussing deploying its testnet nodes and app frontends on Akash (expected in Phase 3).
Giving away 5% of the network to developers as the bootstrap mechanism
Akash AMA Livestream (Akash Network)
“For our developer incentives, we’re giving away five percent of the network — last testnet we did was two percent, this testnet is three percent — so we are very committed to ensuring the developers [are] incentivized early. That will be our bootstrapping mechanism before the value of the network actually occurs in the token.” — Greg Osuri, 00:29:41
Context: Closing remark on how Akash planned to bootstrap supply and demand before mainnet token utility existed.
DeFi front-ends will be shut down — Akash shifts liability to users
"The Akashian Challenge Livestream: Phase 3 Week 1" (Akash Network)
“Very very soon we’re going to see a lot of these DeFi exchanges getting shut down because they’re facilitating money transactions without proper banking licenses. What Akash gives them is a way out… they can have users use Akash to launch their own dexes by themselves… they ship the liability to the user… Akash is primed as the only cloud for DeFi that can do this — no other cloud can do this in the world.” — Greg Osuri, 00:35:05
Context: A 2020 regulatory prediction (predating the 2021-2023 DeFi front-end enforcement wave) used to position censorship-resistant hosting as Akash’s moat.
"Ownerless services": nodes that pay for their own hosting
"The Akashian Challenge Livestream: Phase 3 Week 1" (Akash Network)
“Because Akash is a decentralized network you don’t really have sign-up, you don’t really have the concept of an owner… you earn income running the Solana node — that income can go directly from the node to Akash, paid in Solana tokens, when we interoperate. That’s the future vision… a very holistic frictionless experience, and this is impossible in the cloud… a fully interoperable cloud.” — Greg Osuri, 00:47:51
Context: Explaining the Solana partnership (TCP/UDP port support built for their validators); an early sketch of autonomous, self-paying infrastructure.
Stakers will take 20% of hosting fees — the $300B math
"The Akashian Challenge Livestream: Phase 3 Week 1" (Akash Network)
“It takes about twenty five thousand dollars to run Ethereum — twenty percent of that will go to Akash stakers… the industry being 300 billion dollars, do the math: 20% of that at 100% market penetration — that’s quite a lot of money.” — Greg Osuri, 00:51:21
Context: Asked about the business model; Overclock Labs takes no cut and profits by staking AKT, with inflation rewards designed to give way to a fee share.
Compute will be paid for in stablecoins, not volatile tokens
Greg Osuri - AKASH Network (At Stake)
“There will be some friction, I would imagine, for using Akash tokens to pay for compute. So to alleviate that friction, we wanted to introduce stable currencies… using USDX to pay for cloud compute is the first use case for IBC that we really want to, like, get out.” — Greg Osuri, 00:30:19
Context: IBC discussion (spans into the 00:31:05 block); multi-currency settlement via Kava’s USDX framed as Akash’s first IBC use case. Akash did later add USDC settlement (2023).
Websites hosted by a blockchain network at mainnet 2
"The Akashian Challenge: Closing Live Stream" (Akash Network)
“Come mainnet 2, you’re going to be paying for infrastructure with digital currencies, and so it’s like a real-life physical thing. There will be websites that will be hosted by a blockchain network.” — Adam Bozanich, 01:12:14
Context: Contrast with “10,000 projects that don’t do much in the real world.” Speaker: Adam Bozanich (CTO), not Greg.