# "When you don't have the founder mode, the fire usually dies"

- **Speaker:** Greg Osuri
- **Attribution:** attributed
- **Said:** 2025-10-20
- **Theme:** Other — https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/other/
- **Source:** Akash Founder: Why We're Leaving our Sovereign L1 Behind (Akash Alpha)
- **Watch at:** 00:10:44 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmRIa6PhO8Q&t=644s
- **Canonical:** https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/other/2025-10-20-when-you-don-t-have-the-founder-mode-the-fire-usua-kzfi/
- **Cite as:** Greg Osuri, ""When you don't have the founder mode, the fire usually dies"," Akash Founder: Why We're Leaving our Sovereign L1 Behind (Akash Alpha), 20 Oct 2025, 00:10:44. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmRIa6PhO8Q&t=644s

## Quote — verbatim

> The founders of Cosmos \[aren't\] active anymore, and when you don't have the founder mode, the fire usually dies. Very rarely you can see an example — I think the only example I can think of where the founder is not present is probably Satoshi in Bitcoin... You can have the founders retire or go when you have a level of maturity, and Cosmos doesn't have the level of maturity for the founders to go silent.

## Context — site annotation, not spoken

Why the Cosmos ecosystem stagnated (no growth in members, liquidity, or technical complexity; no roadmap or direction) despite Akash funding shared-security efforts.