# App-chain regret: use shared chains first, scale to sovereignty later

- **Speaker:** Greg Osuri
- **Attribution:** attributed
- **Said:** 2023-10-26
- **Theme:** Crypto & DePIN — https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/crypto-depin/
- **Source:** How Akash Network is Democratizing Access to Cloud GPUs \| Greg Osuri (0xResearch)
- **Watch at:** 00:41:10 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA0yN28Dw8&t=2470s
- **Canonical:** https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/crypto-depin/2023-10-26-app-chain-regret-use-shared-chains-first-scale-to-sjdh/
- **Cite as:** Greg Osuri, "App-chain regret: use shared chains first, scale to sovereignty later," How Akash Network is Democratizing Access to Cloud GPUs \| Greg Osuri (0xResearch), 26 Oct 2023, 00:41:10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA0yN28Dw8&t=2470s

## Quote — verbatim

> If I were to do it again I would always use a shared service, like the Solanas of the world or the layer twos of the world today... the pattern should be using a shared service, hitting the limits of scale, and then moving to an app chain.

## Context — site annotation, not spoken

CryptoKitties' 40,000 users crashed Akash's 2017-18 Ethereum prototype, forcing an app-chain; he says early networks can't justify the security budget. Also reveals an experiment using Bitcoin as an archival chain for old Akash transactions ([00:41:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA0yN28Dw8&t=2513s)) and predicts the modular design space "five years from now is going to be very different" ([00:42:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA0yN28Dw8&t=2557s)).