Cloud Decentralization
42 statements · 2023–2023
The invisible Amazon tax on modern society
Most UNDERRATED Cosmos GEM? Akash Network Deep Dive with Greg Osuri! (Cryptocito)
“Half of every dollar we pay to online services like Netflix and Asana goes to a cloud provider, either Amazon, Google or Microsoft. 80% of that market is controlled by four companies… we pay an invisible Amazon tax. When Amazon goes down, half the internet goes down — that’s how powerful it is.” — 00:17:14
Context: He continues: “these companies are not elected, they’re not regulated, they’re not governed by the people, they’re completely controlled by their figureheads” — the civic argument for an open cloud.
Users care about access, not decentralization — GPUs are the wedge
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“People don’t care about decentralization, people don’t care about control as much as you and I like to think. But what they care is access… even though Akash is like 80% cheaper, it’s not that hard to get a regular computer on Amazon — there’s abundance of it. But I think GPUs are going to be one of those killer use cases for Akash.” — 00:21:33
Context: Candid strategy statement: Akash wins where demand outstrips centralized supply (GPUs), not on ideology or price for commodity compute.
Markets reject choke points — the industry will self-correct
Messari Happy Hour Ep11 (Messari)
“You had companies like AOL that actually went ahead and created these choke points, but the market came around and rejected those choke points and it went back to decentralization. Now we are seeing the opposite, where you have heavy concentration of compute power by a few providers… the best solution is not government intervention, it’s really the industry self-correcting.” — 00:10:14
Context: Internet history as a cycle of centralization and correction; frames web3 infrastructure as the current correction.
Own your data center, sell the spare capacity
Messari Happy Hour Ep11 (Messari)
“If you want something permanent like a blockchain… you have complete control over cost and complete control over privacy. What Akash comes into play and does is really enables you to have your own data center — that gives you sovereignty and control — and sell any unused capacity you have in the data center to people that want to use it, or tap into a larger pool when you want to scale.” — 00:23:54
Context: After contrasting colo economics (capex, 1-3 month acquisition) with cloud premium; the recurring Akash thesis of monetizing owned infrastructure.
The Amazon tax: 50% of online-service spend goes to cloud
Messari Happy Hour Ep11 (Messari)
“50% of every dollar you and I spend on online services like Asana, like Netflix, like Notion goes to Amazon or Google. The Amazon tax — it’s an invisible tax that we all have, and guess who pays the bill.” — 00:20:16
Context: Citing a16z’s “The Cost of Cloud, a Trillion Dollar Paradox”; he adds at [00:21:00] that data centers shrank from ~8.4M in 2018 to ~7.1M while hyperscalers grew, because data centers lack cloud-like tooling.
85% of data-center compute is unused
Interview with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (Web3 Working Group)
“As we’re deploying our software to a lot of these data centers, we discovered most of the compute is not used — like 85% of the time a data center is not used.” — 00:12:57
Context: The pre-blockchain (2015) discovery that seeded the Akash marketplace idea.
Akash is a "supercloud"
Interview with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (Web3 Working Group)
“The actual term for what Akash does is it’s called a supercloud. Akash is [a] supercloud in the sense that it aggregates various heterogeneous resources to give a homogeneous interface, to make it easy to deploy, easier to manage, easier to secure… across different servers, and it promises sovereignty but at scale.” — 00:16:33
Context: His canonical “supercloud” framing — own your data center for baseline, tap the network for burst capacity.
Decentralization lets competitors cooperate
Interview with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (Web3 Working Group)
“There’s no reason [why], if Twitter is doing AI, for them [not] to be able to sell their underutilized capacity to Facebook… and do so in a way that is decentralized and you don’t require trust. So I think decentralization is an amazing way for competitors to cooperate.” — 00:36:05
Context: On capital-efficient AI: trustless marketplaces let rival companies monetize idle GPUs to each other.
Half of every dollar for online services goes to three clouds
Interview with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (Web3 Working Group)
“A16z did an amazing blog post analyzing their companies… as well as the public companies… on average, half of every cent, every dollar you spend goes to Amazon, Google and Microsoft on online services… Twitter… burning like 1.5 million dollars a day on the cloud… Asana spends 60% of their margins on Amazon.” — 00:07:55
Context: The cloud-tax argument (a16z “Trillion Dollar Paradox”); later adds AWS ~40% overall margins, ~90% on EC2 instances (00:19:27).
Decentralization means removing concentration of risk
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“Decentralization is about removing concentration of risk. Decentralization is about removing attack vectors that compromise the network.” — 00:54:30
Context: Recurring thesis, offered while arguing hosting some nodes on AWS is fine — the problem is 70% concentration, not AWS itself; Google and Amazon should eventually be Akash providers.
Marketplaces should be decentralized, companies need not be
Most Successful Crypto Miner Failure, Akash Super Mini - Greg Osuri Interview CEO of Overclock Labs (Action Crypto)
“Any marketplace should be decentralized. Any value exchange I believe should be decentralized, because marketplaces optimize for perfect competition.” — 00:15:06
Context: Asked where the line between centralization and decentralization should be drawn; he adds “the companies I don’t believe should be all decentralized because without those companies you don’t have the markets” ([00:16:30]).
Decentralization means removing systemic failure risk
Akash Network Live with Greg Osuri: Akash's progress in 2023, open community development, and more (Akash Network)
“It’s really about removing the risk of a system failure — removing systemic failure risk… Today you have centralized systems like Amazons and Googles of the world: if the company collapses, the product [dies], no matter how important it is to you or to the society. If the company dies, [the] product [dies].” — 00:12:15
Context: His onion model of protocol attack vectors — consensus, governance economics, company influence (citing Terra), and lab dependence — which motivated the radically-open reorganization; the bracketed words are garbled in the auto-captions (00:12:58).
The internet I want: sovereign, private, decentralized, efficient
Greg Osuri, founder of Akash, answers the question "What Kind of Internet Do You Want?" #shorts (Web3 Working Group)
“The internet that I want needs to be sovereign, needs to be private, needs to be decentralized, and needs to be efficient. That’s the internet that I want… it’s a foundation.” — 00:00:00
Context: His stock closing answer to the series’ signature question; a compact statement of the values behind Akash.
A thousand providers within 12 months; more distributed than Amazon
Mission: DeFi EP 92 - Greg Osuri - Akash is taking on the giants in hosted processing (Mission: DeFi)
“It is the largest market — we have about 50 providers right now… and that’s growing very quickly, and with incentives we expect at least a thousand provider footprint in the next 12 months… it will be the most distributed network. I think from a regional distribution, Akash is a lot more distributed than Amazon’s… the way we’re trending, it’s only a matter of time.” — 00:13:31
Context: Right after the Airbnb-vs-Hilton analogy for Akash vs AWS; a quantified 12-month forecast made March 2023. He later notes low-end pricing “85% cheaper than Amazon” with high-end options 2-3x more (00:17:05).
A viable open-source cloud already exists
Where Crypto and AI Meet | Featuring Akash, Bittensor, Gensyn & DCG (April 26, 2023) (The Bittensor Hub)
“When I talk to developers, people don’t realize we actually have a viable open source cloud… I think that’s a big deal for me and a big deal for, I think, the world.” — 00:45:14
Context: Closing “what excites you most” question; he adds you can “run an Alpaca on a fully decentralized network and pay using a token without giving your email address.”
Cloud is the fabric of society and must be publicly governed
AI SUPERCLOUD with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (The Interop)
“If you consider cloud to be the fabric that holds a society, we need this fabric to be open and we need this fabric to be governed in the public and resources allocated in the public, rather than a single corporation doing it in a completely opaque manner.” — 00:14:00
Context: Closing his three-part argument (cloud margins, open-source stifling, antitrust/censorship) for why Akash needs to exist.
Hyperscalers will route users through Akash to competitors' GPUs
AI SUPERCLOUD with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (The Interop)
“In the future you won’t be surprised to see an Amazon user using a GPU on Google, paying using their Amazon account, and actually not leaving Amazon… now Amazon has a way to retain the user… and actually work with a competitor — and Akash is the bridge.” — 01:20:52
Context: Answering an audience question about conversations with Google/Amazon; says web3 teams at both view Akash as “a critical piece of the future of the cloud” (he explicitly denies any Microsoft talks). “Akash is the bridge” lands at 01:21:35.
In a year or two Akash becomes the secondary market for cloud-grade compute
AI SUPERCLOUD with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (The Interop)
“I think in a year or two timeframe you’re going to see quite a lot of [hyperscaler] participation… and as that progresses it’s not hard to see how Akash becomes a second market for cloud-grade compute.” — 00:31:16
Context: He argues the supercloud needs participation from “the big guys” or it stays a fringe network; says cloud-provider employees privately acknowledge the problem.
Post-parity: 10,000 providers in every city, workloads that follow the user
AI SUPERCLOUD with Greg Osuri of Akash Network (The Interop)
“The first major milestone for Akash Network is parity with the cloud… post parity, imagine having 10,000 providers in every city of the world — GPU, CPU, whatever resource — imagine being able to provision a workload that follows your user no matter where they go.” — 01:09:28
Context: Answer to the long-term-vision question; roadmap is cloud parity first, then hyper-distributed compute.
Centralized systems will absolutely fail at this scale
Mission: DeFi EP 98 - Can Akash be a major player in AI with their GPU market? Founder Greg Osuri (Mission: DeFi)
“That’s the kind of future that we’re looking at, and it’s only possible for a decentralized system, because centralized systems will absolutely fail. There’s no way, at the scale which we talked about, a centralized system can function… it has to be decentralized from the get-go — the core has to be decentralized.” — 00:40:28
Context: Concluding the home/grid compute vision; his argument for why the sharing layer must be decentralized from day one rather than retrofitted.
Cloud is modern society's fabric, 80% controlled by four companies
Mission: DeFi EP 98 - Can Akash be a major player in AI with their GPU market? Founder Greg Osuri (Mission: DeFi)
“The whole point of Akash is to remove the heavy concentration of power… compute cloud today is a fabric of modern society — our data, your data, everything runs [on it] and there’s no going back… the concentrated compute power: Amazon, Google, Microsoft control over 80% of the market today.” — 00:29:45
Context: Answering whether Akash’s role is to decentralize access to GPU power; same riff opens the episode as the cold-open clip. He adds startups can’t get 10 H100s at $3/hr on AWS or GCP without ~$3M commitments.
Akash is the Airbnb layer for cloud capacity
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“Because Airbnb is a network that connects unused space and offers a price point that [is more] attractive, so Akash is that sort of layer that is very similar to Airbnb for developers that host cloud data.” — 00:02:55
Context: Answering the segment’s “Airbnb for computing power” framing of data centers as hotels.
Hyperscalers will publicly work with Akash; Akash as a global compute standard
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“Big hyperscalers are looking at [Akash] and finding ways to, like, figure out great ways to work with [Akash] publicly… I think it’s going to be [Akash] just as a global standing of how people use compute… it’s going to be like AWS support[ing it], for example.” — 00:37:59
Context: Cites AWS’s head of blockchain talking about Akash; predicts hyperscalers reselling Akash capacity (“it’d be funny if Google users use Amazon”). Captions heavily garbled here — bracketed words restore the clear referent.
99% of Akash code will come from outside the issuer
The GPU crisis that AI needs solved now. W/ Greg Osuri, CEO Overclock Labs Akash Network (Parks and Decentralization)
“90% of contributors come from outside Overclock Labs — that means outside the issuer… in a year or two years time maybe 99% will come from outside Overclock Labs, and that’s the goal we are working towards.” — 00:30:11
Context: His “radical decentralization” answer to SEC risk: ~280 developers across 10-15 organizations, only ~20 employed by Overclock; paired with his gold-vs-Apple-stock value-accrual test for what makes a security.
Cloud is the new telco
The GPU crisis that AI needs solved now. W/ Greg Osuri, CEO Overclock Labs Akash Network (Parks and Decentralization)
“Government has to step in and break them down — like break AT&T down — without which we wouldn’t have the internet. Think about it. We are similar in cloud infrastructure: cloud is the new telco and it’s heavily gated.” — 00:10:51
Context: Comparing the AWS/Google/Microsoft/Alibaba oligopoly to the pre-breakup telephone monopoly; notes the US government was investigating AWS for anti-competitive practices.
The 50% invisible cloud tax
The GPU crisis that AI needs solved now. W/ Greg Osuri, CEO Overclock Labs Akash Network (Parks and Decentralization)
“Cloud is so integral and so invisible in our lives that you and I, we pay a cloud tax like it or not… if you use Netflix, if you use Dropbox, if you use Gmail… 50% of what you pay goes to an invisible tax collector called a cloud.” — 00:10:08
Context: Recurring quantified claim about consumer exposure to cloud oligopoly pricing.
8.4 million data centers, mostly idle
RNDR, Supercloud, 1.5T AI Market Cap – Interview with Greg Osuri about Akash (Design DAO)
“Most data centers — there are about 8.4 million data centers in the world — most data centers are not used to the point they’re supposed to be used: 85 percent of time they’re unused. If we can leverage the supercloud and connect these data centers and actually get a price point that’s significantly lower than what you would otherwise pay to these hyperscalers… that’s what we’re seeing with Akash.” — 00:16:28
Context: His recurring utilization argument; he adds it’s “no longer just cheap cloud, it’s about access” to GPUs that cloud providers selectively allocate.
The invisible cloud tax
RNDR, Supercloud, 1.5T AI Market Cap – Interview with Greg Osuri about Akash (Design DAO)
“Andreessen Horowitz wrote a very thorough, thoughtful research piece where they estimated, backed by data — they pointed out over 50 percent of the margins that these online services get goes to a cloud [provider]. If you use Dropbox or Asana or Netflix, 50% of… the profits are going to go into the cloud providers. So there’s an invisible tax we pay, like it or not.” — 00:14:23
Context: Explaining cloud lock-in (BigQuery, Aurora) as the motivation for a homogeneous supercloud interface over heterogeneous providers.
We called the supercloud five years early
RNDR, Supercloud, 1.5T AI Market Cap – Interview with Greg Osuri about Akash (Design DAO)
“Akash Network is a first decentralized supercloud. The idea of a supercloud… we introduced in our white paper in 2018. Now… if you Google supercloud you’ll see Forbes, you’ll see all these mainstream media writing about supercloud — really they discovered like last year, but we were pushing the idea for supercloud for five years.” — 00:11:30
Context: Builds on Cornell’s 2015 supercloud paper; he repeats at [00:57:00] “we know supercloud is going to be a thing, that’s why we wrote the paper five years ago… we’re still very early.”
First-ever open market for GPUs
Akash Mainnet 6 Livestream (Akash Network)
“The biggest and the most exciting feature is the GPU marketplace. This is, I believe, the first instance of an open market for GPUs. There is no open source market right now available, centralized or decentralized, so this is the first time ever the world is experiencing what an open market for GPUs looks like, and it is coming amid the biggest supply crisis we have for GPUs.” — 02:49:28
Context: Pre-upgrade feature overview; he frames the GPU supply crisis as “a symptom of inefficient distribution” where cloud providers failed, creating the opening for an open network.
8.4 million data centers, 85% unused
"#3 - Akash Network with Greg Osuri" (Weapons of Mass Adoption)
“Most data centers, there are about 8.4 million data centers in the world. Most data centers are not used to the point they’re supposed to be used. 85% of the time, they’re unused. So, if you can leverage the super cloud and connect these data centers and actually get a price point that’s significantly lower than what you would otherwise pay to these hyperscalers.” — 00:16:44
Context: Quantifying the latent-supply thesis, then pivoting: “It’s no longer just cheap cloud. It’s about access… to the GPUs” ([00:17:27]).
The invisible 50% cloud tax
"#3 - Akash Network with Greg Osuri" (Weapons of Mass Adoption)
“Anderson Horowitz wrote a very thorough, thoughtful research piece… they pointed out over 50% of the margins that these online services get goes to a cloud provider. Like, if you use Dropbox or Asana or Netflix, 50% of the payment on the profits are going to go into the cloud providers. So, there’s an invisible tax we pay like it or not.” — 00:14:24
Context: Citing a16z’s “The Cost of Cloud” piece while explaining supercloud economics and BigQuery/Aurora lock-in.
"We knew supercloud was going to be a thing" — five years early
"#3 - Akash Network with Greg Osuri" (Weapons of Mass Adoption)
“We stuck to our values and stuck to our thesis. Akash is exactly what it is in the white paper we wrote… Narratives are like, yeah, I’m going to take off. Like, yeah, we know. We knew that five years ago, right?… we know SuperCloud is going to be a thing.” — 00:56:31
Context: On why Akash “didn’t take off” in the 2021 DeFi/NFT cycle — no narrative fit plus Cosmos liquidity constraints; he frames the AI narrative finally aligning with the original thesis.
Open systems go far, closed systems go fast
Building the Super Cloud of GPUs with Akash Founder Greg Osuri | EP #102 (Frictionless Podcast by Logan Jastremski)
“Decentralizing and open systems can go far, whereas centralizing closed systems can go fast… that’s why I believe open and decentral systems will reach [places] where centralized systems just cannot.” — 00:24:36
Context: His recurring coordination-cost argument for why the demand-supply connection for idle GPUs should be a decentralized marketplace.
Next milestone: cloud parity
Akash Network - Chat With a Founder Greg Osuri (Don Cryptonium)
“The next big milestone for Akash is called cloud parity. That means we can get to a point where we can do… anything possible that’s on the cloud today.” — 01:02:45
Context: Asked about the next few years; the theme is “adoption, distribution” with a claimed 98% conversion rate among AI devs shown Akash.
Akash's one thing Amazon doesn't have
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“We technically are an alternative to Amazon Web Services, but we don’t have all the bells and whistles… we have one thing that Amazon doesn’t: that’s open source, and that translates to everything we need. Now we have GPUs — the high-end GPUs Amazon doesn’t have. It’s really about identifying the one thing that nobody else has and you have, and getting 100% behind the one thing.” — 00:54:31
Context: Applying Bruce Lee’s “one kick a thousand times” to startup strategy — one differentiating feature beats a thousand features.
Community is Akash's competitive moat
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“I keep saying community is the competitive moat for Akash. It’s one thing that no one else has — no big cloud provider has a large, open community.” — 00:55:18
Context: Closing point: Amazon can’t scale the way an open community can; his recurring argument for why open-source networks outlast corporate clouds.
Everyone pays an invisible cloud tax
How Akash Network is Democratizing Access to Cloud GPUs | Greg Osuri (0xResearch)
“All of us pay a cloud tax — you and me, we just don’t realize it. For context, next [nearly] 50% of all the subscription fees you pay for online services goes to one of the cloud providers, you just don’t know it.” — 00:02:11
Context: His recurring opening argument: cloud is an oligopoly — “an extremely important layer that is extremely opaque” — and Akash’s mission is to reverse that opacity.
Cloud is a public utility — people first, not shareholders
1on1 Greg Osuri - Akash (Jerry V Hall)
“A corporation is going to optimize for corporation; community is going to optimize for [community]. That’s why decentralization leads to communal public utilities… if you consider cloud to be a public utility… it is very, very important that it is decentralized.” — 00:16:13
Context: The promise of decentralized networks is reversing hyper-centralization by giving cloud users ownership and equity; cites Akash being 70-80% cheaper with chips unavailable on the cloud.
Post-parity: 10,000 regions instead of Amazon's 30
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“Once we get to parity we get to post-parity, which I call innovation beyond imagination. You and I cannot sit here and imagine what kind of innovation [there] will be… Amazon has about 30 regions right now; instead of 30 regions you’re going to have 10,000 regions.” — 00:59:09
Context: Roadmap framing (pre-parity vs post-parity with cloud). He later explains 10ms latency enables applications impossible today (cloud gaming, distributed ML) since “Akash essentially makes any computer a data center” (01:04:05).
Open systems go far, closed systems go fast
Akash Network founder Greg Osuri - Building a Decentralized Computing Marketplace (Crypto Nuggets)
“The whole notion of a decentralized system is not how fast you can move but how far you can go… with open systems you can go far, while with closed systems you can go fast. I’m not here to build closed systems.” — 00:52:09
Context: His recurring argument for why decentralized coordination costs are worth paying — network effects compound; Akash had nine chain upgrades that year without a security incident.
Win state: hyperscalers integrate Akash
Akash Network founder Greg Osuri - Building a Decentralized Computing Marketplace (Crypto Nuggets)
“Our best-case scenario is when Google, Microsoft and Amazon integrate Akash on the demand side — that’s our ideal win state… we do have some efforts in place to attract the big cloud onto Akash.” — 00:45:36
Context: Describing the three-sided ecosystem strategy (demand, supply, crypto); precursor to his later “hyperscalers will join Akash” refrain.