# The interoperability "holy grail": pay for any decentralized service with any token

- **Speaker:** Greg Osuri
- **Attribution:** attributed
- **Said:** 2021-05-12
- **Theme:** Cloud Decentralization — https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/cloud-decentralization/
- **Source:** "Base Layer Episode 209: Greg Osuri, Founder of Akash Network on Decentralizing Compute" (Base Layer)
- **Watch at:** 00:23:43 — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/base-layer-episode-209-greg-osuri-founder-of-akash/id1445373535?i=1000521492647
- **Canonical:** https://www.gregosuri.com/predictions/cloud-decentralization/2021-05-12-the-interoperability-holy-grail-pay-for-any-decent-bsm3/
- **Cite as:** Greg Osuri, "The interoperability "holy grail": pay for any decentralized service with any token," "Base Layer Episode 209: Greg Osuri, Founder of Akash Network on Decentralizing Compute" (Base Layer), 12 May 2021, 00:23:43. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/base-layer-episode-209-greg-osuri-founder-of-akash/id1445373535?i=1000521492647

## Quote — verbatim

> Ideally, in an ideal world, we want a smooth sort of like experience for a developer where you just come, say what you want to do, and the system should handle that. And that's the holy grail of where we are going with interoperability.

## Context — site annotation, not spoken

Describing composing Akash with NuCypher, Sia/Filecoin, Handshake, Sentinel, Orchid; the follow-on (00:24:27) says IBC will let developers pay with "an Akash token... a handshake token... a graph token."